As anyone in finance will tell you giving advice to friends and family is a double-edged sword.
After the jump is an excerpt from a conversation I had with a friend in December. The advice is being posted here because the product explanations and basic portfolio allocation thoughts are relevant to almost anyone who is doing some investing for the first time.
Some bullet points:
- ETF's are the way to go for the lion share of the novice investors portfolio. The concept can be difficult to grasp/explain for first-timers but is important.
- "Buy low and sell high" is wrong. Companies making new highs present some of the best investment opportunities.
- Invest in what you know. Your specialty, line of work, and personal experiences are an edge you bring to the market.
The indiviudal stock picks discussed since:
The indiviudal stock picks discussed since:
Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Friend: hey _ ____
NwWlth: hey, what’s new
Friend: im trying to think of any stocks to put into
i would have to know what the company was i think
NwWlth: ok, so you are a fundamental investor
Friend: i suppose
im thinkng about alternative energy is a ig thing
10:36 AM NwWlth: solar
Friend: any good companys you think?
NwWlth: the big dog is FSLR
and they have been taken to the woodshed lately
10:37 AM but there are ETF's (they trade just like stocks) where you could get exposure to an index of
solar/green alternative energy stuff
i like tech more
Friend: hmmm
so theyre not publically traded?
NwWlth: the 4g / mobile / smart phone build out
Friend: yeah
NwWlth: no you buy them just like you bought Royal
10:38 AM this is one of my favorites
PLUS, the ticker is kind of cute
10:39 AM on that site you can see top holdings or download them to excel to see all. basically everything levered to the production of food
Friend: so you just invest in this compnay van eck who then invest elsewhere
10:40 AM NwWlth: yeah they own an index and the ETF, which trades under the ticker MOO represents the value of that basket of stocks
10:43 AM NwWlth: yeah you want etf's
Friend: send some recommendations
i would appreciate that
10:44 AM ill probably be looking to hold on to something for like 6 months
10:46 AM NwWlth: I like the nasdaq 100 index you get exposure to these names http://dynamic.nasdaq.com/dynamic/nasdaq100_activity.stm
just in google finance type in nasdaq 100 and a list of the funds should auto populate off top of my head there is ticker QQQQ, and QQEW
10:47 AM Friend: so any one of those?
10:49 AM NwWlth: yeah these companies compete for market share but a lot of them put out similar products there are slight varitions prob. over your head at this point but for example we talked about alternative energy and solar
10:50 AM there are prob. at least five different solar ETF's on the market, all attempting to provide exposure to that sector/industry
Friend: sure
NwWlth: if you narrow down to what you specifically want i will look at them and tell you my opinion of what best one out there is
10:51 AM the holdings differ slightly (how they match up with index / weighting in each company)
the expenses differ slightly
and liqudity can be issue so I generallyjust pick the largest ETF in the space and go with them
Friend: what about breaking technology like fel cells
fuel
10:52 AM NwWlth: individual companies
there are some speciality ETF's that try and do that shit but I think its not a space you really would want to own an index
Friend: sure
10:53 AM its too risky maybe as well
that agribusiness has been doing well
NwWlth: i like that name
10:54 AM NwWlth: maybe u could work for them after your travels are over, any finance company will take time to teach a good salesperson on the industry
10:55 AM Friend: im sure they would
10:56 AM NwWlth: majority of finance companies dont care about major all that much, you would just have to pay your dues
10:57 AM NwWlth: so to recap, if you got an alternative energy etf, agribusiness,etf, the nasdaq index
i would recommend an international etf (EEB) and broad market index (IWM) and i would say your set
10:58 AM like to just leave it there
and forget about
Friend: does money direct cost anything?
NwWlth: huh
Friend: to get money sent to your account from scottrade
i don think it does
NwWlth: no i think maybe when I set mine up
10:59 AM if ACH is established it wont
unless they suck but I doubt scottrade does that
Friend: ok
and you dont know anything about art companies?
11:01 AM thanks for th ehelp buddy
NwWlth: ?
Friend: like art stocks
NwWlth: oh
hmm
Friend: fine art
11:02 AM NwWlth: ticker symbol BID is the best i can do off top of head
11:03 AM NwWlth: MOO, IWM, EEB, TAN, QQQQ
is my allocation for you
11:04 AM NwWlth: %'s: 15 30 20 10 25
Friend: thanks
11:05 AM Friend: i see
BID is the highest its been ever in like 5 years
NwWlth: really?
no way
11:06 AM anything high-end should have been hammered
no way they are doing as well as they were in boom years
they are cyclical as it gets i would think
11:08 AM alright im gonna work for a bit peace
Friend: like % of my folio?
11:09 AM NwWlth: right so take whatever $ amnt you have and put that % in each ticker
and you'll be fine to just leave it there
11:10 AM Friend: thanks man
i think ill wait for BID to drop a bit as well
I knkow for a fact that art sales have been consitently rising more than our companies expectations
and we follow sothebys alot
11:11 AM NwWlth: kool-aid
company kool-aid
Friend: art is what i know man
NwWlth: not saying its not true, just dont forget to think for yourself
Friend: right
11:12 AM art and cruising is my life
NwWlth: if i sold art, i would say art sales were at the largest tipping point in history and that over next ten years the business would explode and anyone smart to get in was going to be filthy fuck you rich
11:13 AM because the kool-aid exists for a reason
gotta drink it
11:18 AM just looked at BID
11:19 AM pretty awesome chart
Friend: art is on the up
NwWlth: yeah you know 'buy low and sell high'
Friend: right
GEX i think looks better than TAN
11:20 AM NwWlth: i agree its got wind, so technology companies in that space, and adds to the international exposure
Friend: sure
i like that one alot actually
thanks for that
NwWlth: im huge bull on China, that international ETF is brazil/russsia/india/china
11:21 AM but FXI is, I think, a no brainer with your time-frame. its like the dow of china
i think its 25 largest companies.
11:23 AM Friend: really
11:24 AM you ahve FXI?
NwWlth: right now no I will be buying it again sometime in the future, i like BIDU as china exposure
11:25 AM its chinese google, they have 42x as many ppl, they protect the content those commie bastards thus blocking GOOG from pushing their own companies out, and oh out of the 2 billiion ppl there only 1/5 have internet now
11:26 AM which already is equal to 300 million users, as many ppl in entire states
Friend: right
that one bidu has been real strong
NwWlth: chinese google really i mean the story is great, but the numbers are backing it up which is why im still for it
Friend: right
it might take a plunge soon though
its pretty much the highest its ever been
NwWlth: i never finished, about buy low and sell high that saying is hogwash for the overall market, sure, like march of this year, but that only happens once every ten years or so the point is you should be buying things that are going higher not lower, scan the all-time highs list as one of the first places you get ideas. think about..
Friend: right
NwWlth: the companies you really could have made something out of, names that could have changed
Friend: right
NwWlth: Microsoft & Cisco throughout bull market of the 90’s. Wal-Mart through the 80’s. For a decade they were at all time highs
3 comments:
i wish i had some personalized assistance like this. you're a good man! nice blog, just stumbled upon this from stocktwits, also followed you there. thanks again! -cilaes
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